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Re: IXes and AS length

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ammar Zuberi)
Thu Dec 18 13:05:15 2014

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From: Ammar Zuberi <ammar@fastreturn.net>
In-Reply-To: <1418925323_245759@surgemail.mnsi.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:00:37 +0400
To: Clayton Zekelman <clayton@MNSi.Net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

That=E2=80=99s exactly what I was thinking=E2=80=A6 Equinix doesn=E2=80=99=
t really have anything to do with that part of the peering ecology.

> On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Clayton Zekelman <clayton@MNSi.Net> =
wrote:
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> I'm not sure how they can do that.   Equinix is Layer 2 - your peering =
parameters are between you and your peer?
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> At 12:52 PM 18/12/2014, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> So I just found out that the IX we're looking to hook up with =
(Equinix) doesn't allow downstream ASes. How does that functionally =
work?
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>> Stepping outside my ISP for a moment, I know a building owner with =
several buildings that provides Internet to his tenants. He's getting an =
AS so he can have upstream diversity. Unless carrier A or ISP B have =
direct private peering with whomever (Amazon, NetFlix, Google, FaceBook, =
etc., etc.), that building owner doesn't have a route to those services? =
They can't utilize carrier A or ISP B's public peering connection? How =
can that possibly bee with with every ISP being required to have their =
own physical presence on the exchange? That's just not practical.
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>> I understand not having parallel ASNs (advertising both ASN A and ASN =
B separately) from a sales perspective, but I don't understand ASN A =
advertising directly on the IX, but not allowing ASN A's downstream =
customers of ASNs B, C, D and E.
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>> Am I wrong or is this just an Equinix thing?
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>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
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> ---
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> Clayton Zekelman
> Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi)
> 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
> Windsor, Ontario
> N8W 1H4
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> tel. 519-985-8410
> fax. 519-985-8409       =20


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