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Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter teStrake)
Mon Dec 15 07:17:54 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Peter teStrake <Peter.teStrake@tradingscreen.com>
To: Ammar Zuberi <ammar@fastreturn.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:17:39 +0000
In-Reply-To: <71F867DB-EFBB-436B-8F9D-888996BC085D@fastreturn.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Actually you are right Ammar, it does look similar so maybe not appropriate=
 in this situation. =20

Automated cross connects are one of the challenges they are looking to addr=
ess so it would be interesting to understand why this would not work.=20

-Pete



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> On 15 Dec 2014, at 11:02, Ammar Zuberi <ammar@fastreturn.net> wrote:
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> Doesn't the MetaMako device do exactly the same thing as the Glimmerglass=
 photonic switch?
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> Ammar
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>> On 15 Dec 2014, at 2:50 pm, Peter teStrake <Peter.teStrake@tradingscreen=
.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Arnold,
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>> I have recently been talking to these guys (
>> https://www.metamako.com/use-cases/ ) about intelligent cross connect
>> management within our data centers.
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>> Maybe this would work for you, and probably less complicated than a robo=
t.
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>> Cheers
>> Pete
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>>>> On 11/12/2014 09:21, "joel jaeggli" <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
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>>>> On 12/10/14 4:33 PM, Phil Bedard wrote:
>>>> Curious what the use case is where a photonic or L1 switch wouldn't ge=
t
>>>> the job done? =20
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>>>> With the robotic system you still need to wire everything up so it's
>>>> available to be xconnected.
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>>> We've done electromechanical cross connect termination before on a very
>>> large scale.
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>>> http://www.siemens.com/history/pool/newsarchiv/newsmeldungen/20110403_b=
ild
>>> _3_fernsprechamt_muenchen-schwabing_458px.jpg
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>>> those systems typically don't have the capacity to connect 100% of the
>>> edges at once.
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>>>> FiberZone was another vendor who made robotic patch panels, but I'm no=
t
>>>> sure they are around anymore.
>>> their website is still there, I've never seen an AFM live.
>>>> Interesting also Verizon has a patent on automated patch panels, but
>>>> using=20
>>>> very specific mechanics.
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>>>> https://www.google.com/patents/US8175425
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>>>> Phil=20
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>>>>> On 12/9/14, 11:51 PM, "Arnold Nipper" <arnold@nipper.de> wrote:
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>>>>> Am 2014-12-10 00:36, schrieb Andrew Jones:
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>>>>>> http://www.laser2000.de/out/media/glimmerglass_system_100%281%29.pdf
>>>>> Thank you, Andrew ... while Glimmerglass is really an exciting and
>>>>> excdellent system, these devices are exactly those photonic cross
>>>>> connects I'm _not_ looking for :9
>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On 10.12.2014 10:21, Arnold Nipper wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm looking for a modular, cost-effective automatic / intelligent
>>>>>>> fibre
>>>>>>> optic patch panel.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> I'm not looking at these photonic x-connects, but really for
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> which does the patching instead of a technician.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Arnold
>>>>> --=20
>>>>> Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany
>>>>> email: arnold@nipper.de      phone: +49 6224 5593407 2
>>>>> mobile: +49 172 2650958      fax:   +49 6224 5593407 9
>>=20

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