[176846] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Karrenberg)
Fri Dec 12 06:37:27 2014
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:37:17 +0100
From: Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com>
In-Reply-To: <m2bnnakkcb.wl%randy@psg.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 11.12.14 21:22 , Randy Bush wrote:
> note that free.fr does this in france. we both provide and use it
> there. works out quite well.
Another data point: several cable broadband providers do this in NL. My
personal experience is with Ziggo. Imho they do it right:
- opt-in, at least when I joined as an early adopter
- you do get roaming privileges yourself if you opt-in
- full WPA authentication
- each customer has their individual authentication info
- back-haul is via a separate DOCSIS connection
- no leakage
- no bandwidth loss on your subscription
- no liability for what roamers do
This to me is acceptable. In practice I have turned it off by default on
my phone and I rarely roam as 3G/4G charges are also reasonable. I found
it to be annoying when quality varies as it roams from 3G to Wifi and
Wifi to Wifi. But I do manually turn it on occasionally when stationary
and doing a lot of data.
Daniel
