[176669] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Followup: Survey results for the ARIN RPA
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Baldur Norddahl)
Mon Dec 8 18:31:58 2014
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 00:31:44 +0100
From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl@gmail.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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I care mostly about routes to destinations close to me. If someone
steals a route from someone on other side of the world everyone will
rightly assume it is the other guys having trouble. Plus we simply do not
have much traffic there. On the other hand it adds up for the target if
many ISPs around the world is fooled.
But that is just my ramblings. I am also warning that the RIPE tool already
ignores ARIN. Anyone from RIPE will be ignoring you unless they go out of
their way to fix it. My bet is therefore that ARIN is being ignored by
many if not most.
Regards
Baldur
Den 08/12/2014 23.46 skrev "Mark Andrews" <marka@isc.org>:
>
>
> In message <CAPkb-7DmELgaD0F=
paXdJZuPgi5vqP0Pp8ysYSL+GkXLDMJU2Q@mail.gmail.com>
> , Baldur Norddahl writes:
> > We signed our ROAs but we wont be validating anything from the ARIN
region.
> > I believe you will find this to be the norm. The tool provided by RIPE
also
> > ignores ARIN by default.
> >
> > Someone will probably tell me that I am being arrogant again, but
basically
> > you are asking me to help protect your routes. And you want me to sign
> > something first. I am not going to even read that agreement. I do not
> > believe I am alone in this.
>
> Well the tool is designed to prevent you being fooled by people
> injecting bogus routing information. If you wish to continue to
> be fooled so be it.
>
> If I was running a ISP I wouldn't want to be in the position of
> explaining why I was accepting bogus routes when I have the way to
> reject them.
>
> The agreement is that if you run the tool and there is a mistake
> in the data or the servers are not available that you won't sue
> ARIN for the mistake.
>
> Mark
>
> > Regards
> >
> > Baldur
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