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Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Thu Dec 4 13:21:45 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <58802CE8-DC2C-463A-8123-9EBFC719E7ED@arin.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:19:03 -0500
To: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

>> Comparing what you do with Time Warner cable seems like pure =
hyperbole and an attempt
>> as CEO to inflame community discussion at minimum.
>=20
> Actually, it is to remind folks that such indemnification language is=20=

> sought by most ISPs, despite their services being used in a mission
> critical mode by many customers and despite the ISPs efforts to make=20=

> their services be highly reliable.  =20
>=20
> (One can easily argue that best practices require multiple connections
> or service providers, but that is the same with best practices for =
RPKI
> use requiring proper preferences to issues with certification data...)
>=20
> /John
>=20
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN


I think your question is fair if you are talking to the TWC CEO, but in
this case you are not and it=E2=80=99s disingenuous to pretend otherwise =
(which
you are attempting through your weak straw-man).

If ARIN isn=E2=80=99t capable of running RPKI or performing its =
function, which
perhaps we should infer from your talking points, perhaps we should all
transfer our resources out of region and dissolve ARIN?  I don=E2=80=99t =
think
that would suit the community needs though.

I (similar to Rob) have my own concerns about RPKI but do feel that
this is an ARIN specific construct/wall that has been raised without
action yet from ARIN.  The fact that the meeting was 2 months ago and
you have not acted/discussed with your counsel says everything I need to
know about the situation, your personal motives and your personal =
desires
for the outcomes.  I hope it doesn=E2=80=99t represent your employer and =
that
the ARIN Board brings it up with you.

- Jared=

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