[176528] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Transparent hijacking of SMTP submission...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John R. Levine)
Wed Dec 3 13:34:49 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: 3 Dec 2014 13:33:15 -0500
From: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
To: "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <D6C0DD84-9C2D-4EE3-A643-CDCE9E8946B6@delong.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
> There’s a big difference between illegal and civil liability for breech of contract.
>
> If I am paying someone for access to the internet, then I expect them not to modify, alter, rewrite, or otherwise interfere with my packets.
>
> If they do so, they may not have violated 47 USC 230, but they have certainly failed to provide the service that I am paying for.
Uh huh. Please let us know the case number when you sue, so we can find
out howthat pans out.
By the way, I see you're a customer of Black Lotus. You might want to
review sections 7 and 10 of the terms of service to which you've agreed:
https://www.blacklotus.net/terms-of-service/
Your v6 traffic appears to arrive via a tunnel at HE. See sections 9 and
10 here, which you've also agreed to:
http://www.he.net/tos.html
R's,
John
