[176499] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Phasing out of copper
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joly MacFie)
Tue Dec 2 22:26:27 2014
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In-Reply-To: <547E7ABB.7070408@vaxination.ca>
From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 22:23:57 -0500
To: Jean-Francois Mezei <jfmezei_nanog@vaxination.ca>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: joly@punkcast.com
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Invoke Kushnick's Law
<http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=3D25868748>
* 'A regulated company will always renege on promises to provide public
benefits tomorrow in exchange for regulatory and financial benefits today.'=
*
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei <
jfmezei_nanog@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-12-02 21:16, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > Depends on your desired outcome and goals. However=E2=80=A6
>
> Context: Canadian incumbents deny to the regulator that they have
> intentions to turn off copper. (but to shareholders, openly say they
> will shut it donw, howveer, they plan only to shutdown active equipment
> and leave copper in the poles. Their fibre is hung off the same steel
> support line as copper).
>
> One reason is that by pretending that copper is here to stay and is
> competitive, they hope to convicne CRTC that mandating wholesale access
> to FTTP is not necessary.
>
>
> >
> > it makes more sense to explain to regulators why maintaining copper onc=
e
> sufficient FTTP adoption
> > is complete is foolhearty and a waste of money.
>
> Yeah, that is the way I am spinning it. (hey, I learn about spin from
> the best - the canadian incumbents :-)
>
> > If you=E2=80=99re trying to preserve access to dry copper for some reas=
on,
>
> I am the only one in the whole proceeding who is advocating for the
> earliest possible widthdrawal fo copper. The earlier they can remove
> irt, the easier it is for them to justify the investment, and the less
> reasons they have for preventing access to FTTP.
>
> The confirmation from someone else in the thread that Comcast stops
> selling access to copper once FTTP is up is a good point to make.
>
> I am up on Thursday morning. Am second to last to speak, so hopefully I
> can make a good impression. (this is for round two, first round finished
> today).
>
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