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Re: A case against vendor-locking optical modules

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Dec 1 16:48:58 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1411171533000.1026@whammy.cluebyfour.org>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:43:17 -0800
To: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org


> On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Justin M. Streiner =
<streiner@cluebyfour.org> wrote:
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> On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Nicolle wrote:
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>> Is it unrealistic to hope for enough salesmen pressure on the =
corporate
>> ladder to make such moronic attitude be reversed in the short term ?
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> No salesperson is likely to do that for you.  They know only to well =
that eliminating vendor lock-in means they will lose sales on =
artificially costly optics from $vendor to a lower-cost rival.  Less =
sales =3D less commission for the affected sales person.
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> jms

Which is why there is NO Arista gear in my network=E2=80=A6 They lose =
sales of costly routers as well as optics to any customer who doesn=E2=80=99=
t want to promote this behavior.

It boils down to how much you want to tolerate/support/encourage this =
behavior.

If you feel strongly like I do that such behavior is aberrant and should =
be strongly discouraged, then vote with your $$$ and don=E2=80=99t buy =
from vendors that do that. Let your vendors that you don=E2=80=99t buy =
from know why they lost the sale.

I=E2=80=99ve found that showing a vendor a price-redacted copy of the PO =
to the other vendor can often lead to changes in the way they approach =
the next sales cycle.

Owen


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