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Re: Transparent hijacking of SMTP submission...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Sat Nov 29 22:29:34 2014

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:27:06 -0800
From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
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On 11/29/14 6:32 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 3:09 PM, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
>> In article <CAL9jLaY1q_RBkyB6kczKZUiFR5b1r3kuVz8WivWR0Rjj_oaGTg@mail.g=
mail.com> you write:
>>> backing up a bit in the conversation, perhaps this is just in some
>>> regions of comcastlandia? I don't see this in Northern Virginia...
>>
>> I don't see it in New Jersey, either.
>>
>> Is this a direct connection, or a coffee shop sharing a cable connecti=
on or
>> something like that?
>=20
> my test was a home consumer cable link, not business grade and not
> shared (more than cable is).

The phenomena I reported was observed on a consumer cable service (not
my own). it is now no-longer in evidence with that same source ip. In
answer an intermediate observation, the cpe and the devices on it are
sufficiently well understood now to rule them out.

from the mail servers vantage point...

Nov 27 xxxxx nagasaki sm-mta[5698]: NOQUEUE: tcpwrappers
((reverse).wa.comcast.net, (ip) ) rejection

given that the client gives up because it can't startssl and therefore
won't attempt to auth.

whereas a successful attempt with the same source ip is:

Nov 26 xxxxx nagasaki sm-mta[397]: STARTTLS=3Dserver,
relay=3Dc-(reverse).wa.comcast.net [(ip)], version=3DTLSv1/SSLv3,
verify=3DNOT, cipher=3DDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA, bits=3D128/128


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