[176453] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Transparent hijacking of SMTP submission...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Sat Nov 29 15:45:18 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
In-Reply-To: <20141129201745.30066.qmail@ary.lan>
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:45:06 -0500
To: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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The STARTTLS filter was merely a tool used to divert and tap the traffic. It=
is the latter which is over the line.=20
randy, on a teensy non-computer
On Nov 29, 2014, at 15:17, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
>> i think of it as an intentional traffic hijack. i would be talking to a
>> lawyer.
>=20
> If the lawyer says anything other than that 47 USC 230(c)(2)(A)
> provides broad immunity for ISP content filtering, even if the filters
> sometimes screw up, you need a new lawyer.
>=20
> Filtering STARTTLS on port 587 is pretty stupid, but not everything
> that's stupid is illegal.
>=20
> R's,
> John
>=20
> PS: I know enough technical people at Comcast that I would be
> extremely surprised if it were Comcast doing this. There's plenty not
> to like about the corporation, but the technical staff are quite
> competent.
