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Re: Transit, Exchange Point Agreements, and Acceptable Use?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Ferguson)
Fri Nov 21 10:19:34 2014

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 07:13:40 -0800
From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com>
To: "Siegel, David" <David.Siegel@Level3.com>
In-Reply-To: <970945E55BFD8C4EA4CAD74B647A9DC0730B0611@USIDCWVEMBX10.corp.global.level3.com>
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On 11/21/2014 7:09 AM, Siegel, David wrote:

> Most written peering agreements have a clause that says you can't
> provide that data unless required to by authorities and only in
> compliance with applicable local law.
> 
> The article says that's still an open question:
> 
> "Channel 4 News has been unable to establish whether Reliance
> Communications was served with a warrant to authorise this and the
> company has not responded to our calls."
> 

Right, I noticed that bit. :-)

Cheers,

- - ferg


> Dave
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: NANOG
> [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Paul Ferguson Sent:
> Friday, November 21, 2014 7:59 AM To: NANOG Subject: Transit,
> Exchange Point Agreements, and Acceptable Use?
> 
> I'll apologize up front if this offends anyone's sensitivities as
> to what is relevant for list conversation... but one sentence in
> this Channel4 News story (from what I understand, Channel4 is a
> very popular news source in the UK) struck me as perhaps in
> violation of some sort of peering and/or transit agreement. Cable
> and Wireless:
> 
> "...even went as far as providing traffic from a rival foreign
> communications company, handing information sent by millions of
> internet users worldwide over to spies."
> 
> The entire article is here:
> 
> http://www.channel4.com/news/spy-cable-revealed-how-telecoms-firm-worked-with-gchq
>
>  My question is this: Do willful actions such as these violate
> peering, transit, and/or exchange agreements in any way?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - ferg
> 
> 
> 

- -- 
Paul Ferguson
VP Threat Intelligence, IID
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