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Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert A. Rosenberg)
Wed Jan 31 03:25:11 1996

Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 03:19:00 -0500
To: "Alex.Bligh" <amb@Xara.NET>
From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" <hal9001@panix.com>
Cc: "Alex.Bligh" <amb@Xara.NET>,
        Daniel Karrenberg <Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net>, nanog@merit.edu,
        cidrd@iepg.org, iab@isi.edu, iesg@isi.edu, iana@isi.edu,
        Local Internet Registries in Europe <local-ir@ripe.net>

At 5:48 1/30/96, Alex.Bligh wrote:

>Thankyou for the first constructive workable suggestion had so far. However,
>this has two problems.

You're welcome.

>
>a) RIPE fidn't give me the first /19 in a shorted prefix block
>   ( its x.x.160.x and .192.x is used), but no matter, I'll renumber
>   if necessary :-( or persuade them to give me a /18 as well so I
>   can do the above (hopefully).

My convert the /19 to an /18 was a way to get minimal extra announcements.
Getting a new /19 and keeping the first 3 /21s for your own use and giving
them the 4th, still adds only one EXTRA announcement (over the need to
announce the [new] /19 itself).

>b) The /21 advert may be inbound filtered by a.n.other, which will be
>   fine if it has an AS-Path through me (as the less specific route
>   will work the same way) but won't when that path goes through the
>   other provider with whom they are multi-homed, as the /21 will disappear
>   entirely (3rd parties, i.e. a.n.other's customers will see neither),
>   the /19 will be the only thing that is visible, and I'll just black
>   hole their packets.


As a Multi-Home (as opposed to a Private) /21 it should (theoretically) be
entitled to being added to the filter lists as valid - Getting this done is
a political problem. You should not be black holing the packets since your
receipt of them is VALID (since they are Multi-Homed as opposed to having
walked with the block).



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