[175499] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Miles Fidelman)
Wed Oct 22 21:35:37 2014
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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:35:19 -0400
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
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Israel G. Lugo wrote:
> On 10/23/2014 12:05 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
>
>> systemd is a tool designed to get the system to a state where "real
>> work" can be done. NTP servers, DHCP clients, consoles, aren't the
>> real work of a system, or at least I hope not, because that would be
>> boring to me.
Depends on the system.
>
> Legitimate question, not trying to be sarcastic: would you concede that
> the amount to which something is a "detail" may vary significantly per
> the use case, and requirements? On my desktop I might not care about
> whatever the DHCP client is doing, or the NTP server, but on a server
> that may very well be a different story.
Re. NTP: Timekeeping is rather essential in lots of applications - like,
for example, transit operations, where I currently spend my work life.
An accurate, accessible central clock tends to be a rather important
system component. And we're talking concerns in the range of seconds.
When you start getting into serious real-time systems (laboratory
instrumentation, utility operations, warfighting, ....) - yeah, NTP
servers start getting really interesting, to a lot of people.
Miles Fidelman
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
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