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RE: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Wed Oct 22 15:58:02 2014

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From: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:51:53 -0400
To: Jamie Bowden <jamie.s.bowden@raytheon.com>
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On October 22, 2014 at 11:36 jamie.s.bowden@raytheon.com (Jamie Bowden) wrote:
 > > From: Bryan Tong
 > 
 > 
 > > The final fact is that bash itself is a dirty language that developers hate
 > > and system administrators love.
 > 
 > Excuse me?  I've been administering systems for over twenty years now and I can't say that I've ever even once chosen to use bash over any alternative; no matter how much that alternative might suck, bash sucks more.  Your Linux addicts who've never used another flavor of Unix may be addicted to bash, but there's no helping some people.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I started to implement something
in bash/sh, used it a while, and quickly realized I needed something
like perl and had to rewrite the whole thing.

Sure, one can insist on charging forward in sh but at some point it
becomes, as Ken Thompson so eloquently put it on another topic
entirely, like kicking a dead whale down the beach.

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