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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Wed Oct 22 15:46:27 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:38:11 -0400
To: Daniel Ankers <md1clv@md1clv.com>
In-Reply-To: <CACQ0XpJWRebO2=OfpF15s4agSNGNCpykGdbtXmzYy4swbpfyDw@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On October 22, 2014 at 12:00 md1clv@md1clv.com (Daniel Ankers) wrote:
 > On 22 October 2014 11:34, <nanog@jack.fr.eu.org> wrote:
 > 
 > > Before leaving Debian, things to think:
 > > - will systemd be officialy the only system available ?
 > > - if so, won't we get a way to bypass that ?
 > >
 > 
 > And one other thought... is it really that bad?
 > 
 > Personally I like it a lot better than sysV plus inittab plus daemontools.

I posted my complaints but I think they fall more in the realm of lack
of maturity than bad design.

I believe systemd is superior to sysvinit but it will take time for it
to mature, administrative tools to become available (even if just
better logging/tracing), and for us to get used to it and acquire the
folk knowledge we need.

Until then frustration will arise from time to time.

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