[175418] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matt Palmer)
Tue Oct 21 21:13:15 2014
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From: Matt Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org>
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On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 09:40:30AM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:44:57 +0900, Randy Bush said:
> > systemd is insanity. one would have hoped that deb and others would
> > know better. sigh.
>
> It started as a replacement init system. I suspected it had jumped
> the shark when it sprouted an entirely new DHCP and NTP service. And this
> was confirmed when I saw this:
>
> "Leading up to this has been cursor rendering support, keyboard mapping
> support, screen renderer, DRM back-end, input interface, and dozens of other
> commits."
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzQ
>
> When your init system is worrying about cursor rendering, you have truly
> fallen victim to severe feature bloat. I guess Jamie Zawinski was right:
> "Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail."
Ooooh...
/me submits a patch to systemd to provide localhost:25 and
//usr/sbin/sendmail emulation...
- Matt
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