[174890] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Marriott wifi blocking
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sat Oct 4 00:41:31 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20141004022522.GB1424@bamboo.slabnet.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 21:31:34 -0700
To: Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
The hotel is being fined for blocking/jamming users setting up wifi via mobi=
le technologies and such, not using the hotel's network. Hard for me to imag=
ine how the hotel gets to insert itself into any applicable AUP in that scen=
ario. =20
Owen
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 19:25, Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com> wrote:
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>> On Fri 2014-Oct-03 17:21:08 -0700, Michael Van Norman <mvn@ucla.edu> wrot=
e:
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>> IANAL, but I believe they are. State laws may also apply (e.g. Californi=
a
>> Code - Section 502). In California, it is illegal to "knowingly and
>> without permission disrupts or causes the disruption of computer services=
>> or denies or causes the denial of computer services to an authorized user=
>> of a computer, computer system, or computer network." Blocking access to=
>> somebody's personal hot spot most likely qualifies.
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> My guess would be that the hotel or other organizations using the blocking=
tech would probably just say the users/admin of the rogue APs are not autho=
rized users as setting up said AP would probably be in contravention of the A=
UP of the hotel/org network.
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>> /Mike
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> --
> Hugo
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>>> On 10/3/14 5:15 PM, "Mike Hale" <eyeronic.design@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> So does that mean the anti-rogue AP technologies by the various
>>> vendors are illegal if used in the US?
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>>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam@gmail.com>
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>>>>> It doesn't. The DEAUTH management frame is not encrypted and carries n=
o
>>>>> authentication. The 802.11 spec only requires a reason code be
>>>>> provided.
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>>>> What's the code for E_GREEDY?
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>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -- jra
>>>> --
>>>> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink
>>>> jra@baylink.com
>>>> Designer The Things I Think
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>>>> St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727
>>>> 647 1274
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