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Re: large BCP38 compliance testing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roland Dobbins)
Thu Oct 2 14:34:29 2014

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From: Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>
In-Reply-To: <542D9852.3020902@gameservers.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 01:34:14 +0700
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 1:24 AM, Brian Rak <brak@gameservers.com> wrote:

> What about providers who knowingly allow IP spoofing, because it's =
profitable?

Ultimately, the only way to even possibly try to get a handle on this =
facet of the problem may be via lawsuits; in many jurisdictions, the =
burden of proof is lower for the plaintiffs in a civil case than it is =
for prosecutors in criminal cases.

The questions of evidence, standing, jurisdiction, provable damages, et. =
al. then come into play . . . and when those organizations are located =
in areas where the rule of law isn't particularly strong, it complicates =
matters further.  There are precedents for extraterritorial legal suits, =
but unless there are assets that can be seized in the event of a verdict =
for the plaintiff, it's unclear how much actual impact they would have.

[Note:  IANAL, nor do I play one on television.  All of the above is =
uninformed speculation and may be completely wrong.]

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