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Re: The Next Big Thing: Named-Data Networking

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Field, Brian)
Fri Sep 5 14:51:12 2014

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From: "Field, Brian" <Brian_Field@cable.comcast.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 18:51:01 +0000
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Here=B9s my $0.02.   I=B9m only going to touch on a small part of what I
understand NDN to be=8B namely making caching a first class citizen of the
network.  When you think about the types of traffic currently carried over
our collective networks, there might be value if the network eco system
more natively supported caching.

Van=B9s first paper proposing this NDN concept (afaik) was in 2009.

If we were to get into the =B3way-back=B2 machine to say 2003, when
peer-2-peer was a big app, one might have then decided that we really need
to make =B3peer-2-peer=B2 a first class citizen of the network.  In fact th=
e
IETF tried [at some level] to do this with the DECADE WG.  The app space
evolved, p2p is no longer as prevalent, and DECADE saw/got little
traction. =20

In 1998, we might have been thinking about making NNTP a first class
citizen of the network.

Maybe we need to think about making *software* [instead of a specific
service] a first class citizen of the network.   What do I mean by this?

If software were a first class citizen of our networks in 2003, we might
have hopped onto our routers and done a =B3yum install decade=B2=8B which w=
ould
install software that would make the network eco system more efficient at
supporting p2p traffic.

Today, on our network eco system we might do a =B3yum uninstall decade=B2 a=
nd
then do a =B3yum install caching=B2=8B which might embed caching functional=
ity
into our routing eco system=8B hopefully making the delivery of cacheable
content more efficient.

In N years, when there is yet another new app pushing the network eco
system, we might then be doing a =B3yum uninstall caching=B2 and instead do=
ing
a =B3yum install new-app=B2 which would make the network eco system more
efficient at supporting this new-app.

Brian





On 9/5/14, 8:16 AM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> wrote:

>How many Youtube subject tags will fit in *your* routers' TCAM?
>
> =20
>http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/04/2156232/ucla-cisco-more-launch-con
>sortium-to-replace-tcpip
>
>[ Can someone convince me this isn't the biggest troll in the history
>of the internet? Cause it sounds like shoehorning DNS /and Google/ into
>IP in place of, y'know, IP addresses. ]
>
>Cheers,
>-- jra
>--=20
>Jay R. Ashworth                  Baylink
>jra@baylink.com
>Designer                     The Things I Think                       RFC
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>Rover DII
>St Petersburg FL USA      BCP38: Ask For It By Name!           +1 727 647
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