[173850] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dealing with abuse complaints to non-existent contacts
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (goemon@anime.net)
Sun Aug 10 21:08:31 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:33:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: goemon@anime.net
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
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Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, David Conrad wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> wrote:
>>> It would be nice if allocations would be revoked due to invalid/fake contact info.
>> That’s been debated many times, in most of the RIRs, and has not resulted in any persistent policies that I remember offhand. The tide may turn, as it were, if problems get sufficiently bad, at which point these sorts of policies might receive sufficient support to be passed, and stick.
> Which, of course, would not actually cause address space to be magically returned to the RIR. The RIRs are not the Internet Police and attempting to use the Whois database as a stick to beat “bad” ISPs will simply result in the Whois database becoming less and less relevant.
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> What might work would be for the RIRs to annotate registration data records with stuff like "valid/invalid contact information” (accessible programmatically via RDAP) and allow ISPs to build filters based on that annotation.
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> But yes, this has been debated many times and nothing ever seems to get done.
RBL / BGP blackholes based on bad registration info?
Could work.
-Dan
