[173740] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sat Aug 2 13:29:19 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <201408020934.33782.mark.tinka@seacom.mu>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 10:28:09 -0700
To: "mark.tinka@seacom.mu" <mark.tinka@seacom.mu>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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That's why I want legislation requiring the operator to be one or the other a=
nd not both.=20
Most L1 gets built with tax dollars or subsidies anyway.=20
Owen
> On Aug 2, 2014, at 0:34, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu> wrote:
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>> On Friday, August 01, 2014 04:44:29 PM Owen DeLong wrote:
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>> Even when mandated to unbundle at a reasonable cost,
>> often other games are played (trouble ticket for service
>> billed by lines provider resolved in a day, trouble
>> ticket for service on unbundled element resolved in 14
>> days, etc.).
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>> IMHO, experience has taught us that the lines provider
>> (or as I prefer to call them, the Layer 1 infrastructure
>> provider) must be prohibited from playing at the higher
>> layers.
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> Agree.
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> In reality, though, we've seen Layer 1-only providers=20
> becoming service providers (even when they previously=20
> promised the market it would never happen), due to wanting=20
> to stay "relevant".
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> I suppose if a Layer 1 provider were a government entity,=20
> there is a higher chance they would never enter the Layer 2=20
> or 3 space, but even then, there is strong lobbying in=20
> politics that this could become a reality.
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> I've seen it happen a great deal in south east Asia,=20
> Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Kenya, and now even South Africa,=20
> particularly with Layer 1 providers that were government=20
> entities built to enable fibre connectivity for management=20
> of utility services (power, for example) and were then=20
> tasked to offer Layer 1 services with the remaining fibre,=20
> but currently find themselves now playing in Layer 2 and=20
> above to make extra cash for the government.
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> It's hard...
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> Mark.
