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Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Fri Jul 25 19:29:09 2014

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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:59:02 +0530
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
To: "joly@punkcast.com" <joly@punkcast.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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Astroturfing exists on both sides of the political spectrum but as far as I
can see, like Joly says, Bennett doesn't astroturf.

Not that some leading proponents of net neutrality would even know a router
if it bit them, so there's enough FUD to spare all over.

On Saturday, July 26, 2014, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> wrote:

> Personally, I don't get it.
>
> To mock the Brett Glass Google obsession (PK.EFF, Susan Crawford etc) - as
> I do - while casting aspersions on Bennett and the ITIF, is hypocrisy.
>
> Astroturfing - defined as paid spoofing of grass roots support for a
> position - definitely exists, and is heavily practiced by Telecom
> incumbents, but Bennett isn't it. There is no way he is "grass roots".
>
> He is a pundit, an advocate, arguably a shill, but astroturf, no.
>
> j
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:17 PM, William Allen Simpson <
> william.allen.simpson@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > On 7/22/14 12:07 PM, Paul WALL wrote:
> >
> >> Provided without comment:
> >>
> >> http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/comcast-astroturfing-net-neutrality
> >>
> >>  Thanks!  This is nothing new for him.  There's astroturf from
> > him going back to '08 on NANOG.
> >
> > Remember when he was shilling for ITIF -- a "think tank" whose
> > board was then co-chaired by conservative congress-critters and
> > dominated by corporate governmental affairs (nee lobbyists)?
> >
> >
>
>
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