[173471] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: EFF gets into the CPE router software business..
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Herbert)
Fri Jul 25 01:06:49 2014
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From: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <1d5e366c506d5188f24c0c58b58d4899@thefnf.org>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:06:38 -0700
To: "charles@thefnf.org" <charles@thefnf.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Any idea how well CeroWRT stands up to nation-state level intrusion efforts?=
George William Herbert
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> On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:24 AM, charles@thefnf.org wrote:
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>> On 2014-07-24 12:04, Valdis Kletnieks wrote:
>> So the EFF is pushing development of an open CPU router
>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/building-open-wireless-router
>> https://openwireless.org/
>> It's currently targeting WNDR3800's and based on the CeroWRT software
>> (which works pretty well in my own experience).
>> What will possibly be interesting in this forum is that it's explicitly
>> targeting having open guest wireless access (unlike the stuff being pushe=
d
>> by some ISPs, where you can roam but only to other customers of the same
>> ISP).
>> !DSPAM:53d13dc965333732154236!
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> The Free Network Foundation (which I co founded and am CTO of) has been he=
lping several groups in the USA do this for ~1 year now. EFF is simply rebra=
nding/respinning community networking, but they are pretty new to the USA Fre=
e Networks party overall. They just have a bigger budget/brand recognition (=
though FreedomTower has become a pretty resilient brand based on the e-mails=
we get on a daily basis). Also I'm not sure of the level of support/hand ho=
lding/documentation etc EFF will provide for folks wanting to build a networ=
k off this setup (I'm guessing not much). Also most incumbent carriers prev=
ent sharing (where FNF supported/assisted/collaborative/affiliated US based e=
fforts back haul (over high capacity wifi or VPN over incumbent circuits) to=
wholesale colocation facilities POP and do things like monitor abuse@ conta=
cts etc. (Ya know, actually responsibly run an ISP).
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> I'd rather of seen them partner with FNF, (or actually much more preferabl=
e would be upstream wrt projects like QMP) and not spin YET ANOTHER FIRMWARE=
.
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> I'm glad they picked CeroWRT though.
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