[173438] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Starting a greenfield(ish) small (10k subs?) multihomed (two ASN)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (hayden)
Thu Jul 24 12:36:06 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: hayden <paul.basov@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <0f05efecb3bc24608a7cf09ec850cdf8@thefnf.org>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:10:22 +0400
To: charles@thefnf.org
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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Sorry, no feedback from me.. I have couple of questions though, how much =
licensing do you need to go through, to actually start a WISP?
Also, Kansas.. Are you concerned that you=92ll have to compete with =
Google Fiber at some point?
On 23 Jul 2014, at 20:58, charles@thefnf.org wrote:
> Hey everybody,
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> So all this talk about monopolies, small ISPs vs the big bad netflix =
, muni fiber etc etc has been interesting. Lots and lots of talk, lots =
of interesting links etc.
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> I'm an action/results oriented individual, and have been working on =
actually building out a grassroots ISP, instead of just talking about =
it. :)
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> Over the past year or so, I've been involved with an effort to launch =
a community ISP in the Kansas City MO area. It's got several towers up =
now and a decent amount of users. It's been funded by the community that =
it serves. Feel free to ask any questions you have about the details. =
It's an open network in all aspects (design, business model etc). It is =
intentionally designed/operated in such a way that all aspects can be =
disclosed.
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> We are now ready to take the next step and obtain an ASN and v6 space =
(also looks like we can get a /24 of v4 space as well).
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> What are the things that we should do before we get those resources? =
What should we do immediately after? What books/rfc/bcp should we be =
most familiar with?
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> As is typical of many small outfits, we have an incredibly high degree =
of software skill, and a limited budget which goes entirely to hardware.
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> This is a greenfield network. We've got Ubiquiti gear for the =
backbone. Running a mix of QMP routers with BMX6 as the IGP linked over =
AirOS l2 bridge "pseudowires". We'll be homed to two AS upstreams. Using =
pfSense as the WAN edge routers.
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> =46rom all my reading of the list, it seems like key things to do in =
this scenario:
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> 1) Have full flow telemetry at all points to help with (D)DOS =
mitigation.
> 2) Do CGN in pools (so perhaps ~500 to 1k users behind each IP)?
> 3) Provision a /56 of v6 space to each end user. I was thinking of =
having the CPE with CeroWRT and be multi SSID with a /64 per. I'm =
interested in folks thoughts on this?
> 4) Upsell a public v4 address if someone requires it
> 5) Of course implement bcp38
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> I'm mostly interested in technical feedback. Business model etc type =
feedback is welcome as well, but not the primary purpose of this =
message. :)
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> Thanks!
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> Charles Wyble
> CTO Free Network Foundation
