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Re: Fwd: Hurricane Electric packet loss

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Clayton Zekelman)
Tue Jul 22 14:45:07 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:44:24 -0400
To: Shawn L <shawnl@up.net>,nanog <nanog@nanog.org>
From: Clayton Zekelman <clayton@MNSi.Net>
In-Reply-To: <CACTmXQXnEU94roZ5wOb4dxQjXNTFCkpLMzqfDnwEda7JK2VZdQ@mail.g
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Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org


We haven't had time to diagnose with them, but we=20
ended up having to shut down our BGP sessions=20
with HE last night due to horrible slow speed issues out of TOROONNX.

There's something going on, just don't know what it is yet.


At 02:37 PM 22/07/2014, Shawn L wrote:
>On our HE uplink, I'm seeing no packet loss until your hop #9
>at that point I see alot
>
>
>HOST: ********                  Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
>   1.|-- *******        0.0%    10    0.2   0.2   0.2   0.3   0.0
>   2.|-- *******                0.0%    10    0.3   0.3   0.3   0.3   0.0
>   3.|-- *******          0.0%    10    4.4   4.5   4.3   4.6   0.0
>   4.|-- gigabitethernet3-5.core1.  0.0%    10   15.6  15.1  14.1  17.2  =
 1.0
>   5.|-- 10ge5-7.core1.mci3.he.net  0.0%    10   26.2  26.7  26.2  30.1  =
 1.0
>   6.|-- 10ge5-1.core1.den1.he.net  0.0%    10   39.7  39.7  39.5  40.2  =
 0.0
>   7.|-- 10ge14-5.core1.lax2.he.ne  0.0%    10   66.8  65.9  63.5  68.4  =
 1.6
>   8.|-- 2001:504:13::3b            0.0%    10   73.0  73.0  72.8  73.1  =
 0.0
>   9.|-- 2402:7800:100:1::55       80.0%    10   71.8  71.8  71.8  71.9  =
 0.0
>  10.|-- ten-0-5-0-0.cor01.syd04.n  0.0%    10  228.0 228.1 227.9 228.3  =
 0.0
>  11.|-- ge-0-1-4.cor02.syd03.nsw.  0.0%    10  228.4 228.4 228.3 228.6  =
 0.0
>  12.|-- 2402:7800:0:2::18a        10.0%    10  228.2 228.1 228.0 228.3  =
 0.0
>  13.|-- 2001:dcd:12::10           10.0%    10  229.2 229.3 229.2 229.5  =
 0.0
>
>
>
>On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Wolfgang Nagele (AusRegistry)
><wolfgang.nagele@ausregistry.com.au> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We=E2=80=99ve been customers of Hurricane Electric for a number of years=
 now and
>always been happy with their service.
> >
> > In recent months packet loss on some of their major routes has become a
>very common (every few days) occurrence. Without knowledge of their network
>I am unsure what=E2=80=99s the cause of it but we=E2=80=99ve seen it on the=
 Tokyo - US
>routes as well as the London - US routes. It reminds me of the Cogent
>expansion which was carried out by unsustainable oversubscription which
>eventually resulted in unusable service for a number of years. Having seen
>some of the rates that HE has been selling for I can=E2=80=99t help but=
 wonder if
>they made the same mistake ...
> >
> > Here is an example of what=E2=80=99s going on again atm.
> > HOST: prolocation01.ring.nlnog.ne Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst
>StDev
> >   1.|-- 2a00:d00:ff:136::253       0.0%    11    0.3   0.3   0.3   0.4
>0.0
> >   2.|-- 2a00:d00:1:12::1           0.0%    10    0.7   0.8   0.7   1.1
>0.1
> >   3.|-- hurricane-electric.nikhef  0.0%    10    0.7   3.1   0.7   8.3
>2.9
> >   4.|-- 100ge9-1.core1.lon2.he.ne  0.0%    10    9.8  12.6   8.0  19.2
>4.1
> >   5.|-- 100ge1-1.core1.nyc4.he.ne 10.0%    10   74.7  74.6  73.7  80.8
>2.3
> >   6.|-- 10ge10-3.core1.lax1.he.ne 30.0%    10  133.4 138.0 133.4 145.1
>4.8
> >   7.|-- 10ge1-3.core1.lax2.he.net 20.0%    10  135.7 139.1 133.4 145.1
>4.5
> >   8.|-- 2001:504:13::3b           40.0%    10  143.2 143.1 142.1 144.4
>0.8
> >   9.|-- 2402:7800:100:1::55       50.0%    10  144.4 144.1 143.8 144.4
>0.2
> >  10.|-- 2402:7800:0:1::f6         60.0%    10  298.7 298.4 298.2 298.7
>0.2
> >  11.|-- ge-0-1-4.cor02.syd03.nsw. 10.0%    10  299.3 298.9 298.3 299.5
>0.5
> >  12.|-- 2402:7800:0:2::18a        20.0%    10  299.7 299.4 298.9 300.1
>0.4
> >  13.|-- 2001:dcd:12::10           30.0%    10  299.8 299.5 298.8 300.0
>0.5
> >
> > Is anybody else observing this as well?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Wolfgang

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Clayton Zekelman
Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi)
3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
Windsor, Ontario
N8W 1H4

tel. 519-985-8410
fax. 519-985-8409       =20


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