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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Osmon)
Tue Jul 22 00:19:54 2014

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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:19:34 -0600
From: John Osmon <josmon@rigozsaurus.com>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 01:34:58PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
> 
> On Jul 21, 2014, at 11:38 , William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
> 
> > The only exception I see to this would be if localities were
> > constrained to providing point to point and point to multipoint
> > communications infrastructure within the locality on a reasonable and
> > non-discriminatory basis. The competition that would foster on the
> 
> Yes... This is absolutely the right answer, but they should only be able to provide
> physical link, not higher layer services.

I try to point people to the City of Idaho Falls, Idaho at this point in
the conversation.  They supply dark fiber to commercial entities.

I inherited a network built on it during an acquisition a number of
years ago.  The city was much more responsive than any telco provider.
Pricing was well within reach of smaller providers.

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