[173261] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Jul 21 16:43:25 2014
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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAGL1wDT4+AvfDHN4ySrQxMYyu3SgyqTcCkim=Vrde0xqcuMCEg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:24:23 -0700
To: Jason Iannone <jason.iannone@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Ask Skype just how easy it is to do that with a dual-stacked service.
Owen
On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:29 , Jason Iannone <jason.iannone@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> Seems like as good at time as any for Netflix to go distributed peer =
to peer.
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> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> =
wrote:
>> Is anyone else cynical enough to say FiOS going symmetrical is an =
attempt to
>> blunt the pro-NetFlix argument on that point?
>> - jra
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>> On July 21, 2014 12:46:27 PM EDT, Jason Iannone =
<jason.iannone@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> There was a muni case in my neck of the woods a couple of years ago.
>>> Comcast spent an order of magnitude more than the municipality but
>>> still lost.
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>>> Anyway, follow the money. "Blackburn=92s largest career donors are =
..
>>> PACs affiliated with AT&T ... ($66,750) and Comcast ... ($36,600). =
...
>>> Blackburn has also taken $56,000 from the National Cable &
>>> Telecommunications Association."
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>>> =
http://www.muninetworks.org/content/media-roundup-blackburn-amendment-ligh=
ts-newswires
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>>> In other news, FIOS has gone symmetrical.
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>>> =
http://newscenter.verizon.com/corporate/news-articles/2014/07-21-fios-uplo=
ad-speed-upgrade/
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>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> =
wrote:
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>>>> Over the last decade, 19 states have made it illegal for =
municipalities
>>>> to own fiber networks -- encouraged largely, I am told, by Verizon =
and
>>>> other cable companies/MSOs[1].
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>>>> Verizon, of course, isn't doing any new FiOS deployments, per a =
2010
>>>> press release[2].
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>>>> FCC Chair Tom Wheeler has been making noises lately that he wants =
the
>>>> FCC
>>>> to preempt the field on this topic, making such deployments legal.
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>>>> Congressional Republicans think that's a bad idea:
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>>>> =
http://www.vox.com/2014/7/20/5913363/house-republicans-and-obamas-fcc-are-=
at-war-over-city-owned-internet
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>>>> [ and here's the backgrounder on the amendment:
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>>>> =
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/washington/blackburn-bill-would-bloc=
k-fcc-preemption/132468
>>>> ]
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>>>> While I generally try to avoid bringing up topics on NANOG that are
>>>> political;
>>>> this one seems to be directly in our wheelhouse, and unavoidably
>>>> political.
>>>> My apologies in advance; let's all try to be grownups, shall we?
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>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -- jra
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>>>> [1]
>>>> =
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/hundreds-of-cities-are-wired-with-fiberbu=
t-telecom-lobbying-keeps-it-unused
>>>> [2]
>>>> =
https://secure.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Again-Confirms-FiOS-Expansi=
on-is-Over-118949
>>>> --
>>>> Jay R. Ashworth
>>>> Baylink
>>>> jra@baylink.com
>>>> Designer The Things I Think
>>>> RFC 2100
>>>> Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 =
Land
>>>> Rover DII
>>>> St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 =
727
>>>> 647 1274
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>> --
>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
