[173180] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Herbert)
Fri Jul 18 22:20:33 2014
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From: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <FAB54096-3117-4B43-B27E-38FAA487D6EB@puck.nether.net>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 19:20:22 -0700
To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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> On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:19 AM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
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> The problem is partly a technological one. If you have a fiber span from e=
ast<-> west it doesn't make sense to OEO when you can just plop in a bidi am=
plifier.
Almost certainly, most of the fiber going through the building just hits an a=
mplifier (or nothing and isn't broken out there). Yes.
But they quoted a price for access, and some research turned up signs other p=
eople are doing big fiber out of that location, so my assumption at this poi=
nt is that at least one pair each direction down the fiber is terminating in=
some router there. Possibly a fiber level wave device but seems more likel=
y a router.
Unless that assumption is not true, this comes down to "We don't want your a=
ntenna on our roof*, come in via fiber like everyone else" and not having me=
t the right Layer 3 reseller yet. It's not sounding at all like "we have to=
break open a fiber for you and put in a router".
(The rest of this indirectly aimed back at Brett, not Jared )
It's not 1995. Even little ISPs need to get aware and step their game up. T=
reating transit or uplink like a 1995 problem IS a short road to damnation n=
ow.
Seriously. The net is changing. The customers are changing, the customers u=
ses and expectations are changing. Change with it, or step out of the way. =
You are not an exception because you're rural. You've just got a density an=
d size lag. That is temporary at best. Keep up. This is critical national=
telecommunications infrastructure. Modern teens have mostly never used lan=
dline phones and are not OK with inadequate bandwidth at home or on the road=
.
Being in Laramie is not a shield against change.
* probably expands to "...you aren't big enough for me to bother working wit=
h my facility staff and filling out the paperwork to get an exception or lea=
se amendment or permit and let you put an antenna on our roof, sorry", but t=
his is an educated guess not informed.
George William Herbert
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