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Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Jul 18 18:50:28 2014

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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 15:45:29 -0700
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Jul 18, 2014, at 11:32 , Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com>
>=20
>> But the part that will really bend your mind is when you realize that
>> there is no such thing as "THE Internet".
>=20
> "The Internet as "the largest equivalence class in the reflexive, =
transitive, symmetric closure of the relationship 'can be reached by an =
IP packet from'"
> -- Seth Breidbart.
>=20

Note that the sentence is incomplete and as soon as you put something =
after "from" that is actually meaningful, you end up with different =
answers for the left hand side of that statement depending on what you =
put at the right hand side.

Further, even that definition doesn't define a single cohesive entity =
and the definition of "can be reached by an IP packet" is highly =
variable and more subjective than you may realize.

What we commonly refer to as "THE Internet" is really many different =
equivalence classes similar to what is described above, but each of them =
is made up of a collection of independently owned and operated networks =
that happen to cooperate on traffic delivery to varying extents and =
happen to have agreed to a common protocol and participate in some of =
the same management schemes for things like namespace collision =
avoidance and address distribution.

Owen


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