[173135] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Jul 16 20:42:59 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <53C71556.3060801@meetinghouse.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 17:38:58 -0700
To: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Jul 16, 2014, at 17:14 , Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> =
wrote:
> Owen DeLong wrote:
>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 16:00 , Brett Glass <nanog@brettglass.com> wrote:
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>>> At 10:25 AM 7/13/2014, Charles Gucker wrote:
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>>>> ALL ISPs are in the business of providing access to
>>>> the Internet. If you feel the need to rebel, then I suggest you
>>>> look at creative ways to increase revenue from your customers,
>>> My customers do not want me to "creatively" find ways to extract
>>> additional money from them so as to cover expenses that Netflix
>>> should be covering. Nor do they want me to subsidize Netflix
>>> subscribers from the fees from non-Netflix subscribers. They
>>> want to pay a fair price for their Internet that does not include
>>> paying ransom to third parties.
>> Why should Netflix be covering those expenses? Your customers
>> asked for the content from Netflix. They paid you to deliver it and =
they
>> paid Netflix for the content.
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> Not for nothing, but in the old days, if I asked Netflix to send me a =
CD in the mail, they paid the postage - out of the fee I paid them.
Because that was the contract you had with Netflix. Did you also pay the =
post office to bring the DVD to you? (To the best of my knowledge,
Netflix never shipped CDs)?
Yes, if you pay Netflix to pay the delivery charges, I have no problem =
with them paying your ISP. However, in this case, you're paying your =
ISP, so Netflix shouldn't have to. My point is your ISP shouldn't get to =
double-dip.
Owen
