[173028] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Lyon)
Mon Jul 14 23:58:36 2014
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 20:58:27 -0700
From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com>
To: Brett Glass <nanog@brettglass.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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So we are splitting hairs with what "peering" means? And I am sure Netflix
(or any other content / network / CDN provider) would be more than happy to
statically route to you? Doubtful.
Dude, put your big boy pants on, get an ASN, get some IP space, I am a
smaller ISP than you I am sure and I have both. It's not rocket science.
How are other networks suppose to take you seriously if you don't have an
ASN?
-Mike
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Brett Glass <nanog@brettglass.com> wrote:
> Netflix's arrangement isn't "peeering." (They call it that, misleadingly,
> as a way of attempting to characterize the connection as one that doesn't
> require money to change hands.)
>
> ISPs peer to connect their mutual Internet customers. Netflix is not an
> ISP, so it cannot be said to be "peering." It's merely establishing a
> dedicated link to an ISP while trying to avoid paying the ISP for the
> resources used.
>
> But regardless of the financial arrangements, such a connection doesn't
> require an ASN or BGP. In fact, it doesn't even require a registered IP
> address at either end! A simple Ethernet connection (or a leased line of
> any kind, in fact; it could just as well be a virtual circuit) and a static
> route would work just fine.
>
> --Brett Glass
>
>
> At 09:35 PM 7/14/2014, Mike Lyon wrote:
>
> So if Netflix was at 1850 Pearl, you wouldn't be able to peer with them
>> anyways cuz u have no ASN?
>>
>
>
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