[172903] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Crocker)
Sat Jul 12 21:30:43 2014
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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:28:54 -0700
From: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
To: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 7/12/2014 3:43 PM, Barry Shein wrote:
> I don't recall whether CSnet had any commercial members.
>
> Apple was a CSNET 56k customer.
As I recall, Schlumberger (http://www.slb.com/, a research site of
theirs on the west coast) was one of the earliest CSNet member. So was HP.
I put Schlumberger online circa 1981 or 1982. I believe they were among
the first 5-10 sites I brought up. At that stage, it was only email
relaying, of course. Packet services were later.
Also, although CSNet started with NSF money, it was required to become
self-funded within 5 years. Albeit on a non-profit financial model, I'd
claim that that made it, essentially, a commercial access service.
If one allows 'commercial' ISP to cover independent operations that
happened not to have a profit-oriented motive, I suspect the first
service to quality would be The Little Garden, operated as a direct
consortium, rather than having third-party operations, as CSNet did.
d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
