[172883] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Herbert)
Sat Jul 12 06:48:10 2014
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From: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <FD92D9E5-4CFA-4981-A229-EE44F37BE927@delong.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 03:47:56 -0700
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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> On Jul 11, 2014, at 10:31 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
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> On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
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>>>> And, for the record, it's pretty widely acknowledge that "The World"=20=
>>>> (Barry Shein) was the world's first commercial ISP - offering shell=20
>>>> access in 1989, and at some point started offering PPP dial-up=20
>>>> services. As I recall, they were a UUnet POP.
>>> yep. and uunet and psi were hallucinations. can we please not rewrite
>>> well-known history?
>>> or are you equating shell access with isp? that would be novel. unix
>>> shell !=3D internet.
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>> btw, not do denigrate what barry did. a commercial unix bbs connected
>> to the real internet was significant. the left coasties were doing free
>> stuff, the well, community memory, ... and barry created a viable bbs
>> commercial service which still survives (i presume). a significant
>> achievement.
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>> randy
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> Not to take away from Barry, but around that same time, some of us left co=
asts were also helping to build Netcom as a viable commercial entity providi=
ng shell and later PPP and dedicated line access (DS0, T1).
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> Owen
...and CRL, and shortly after Netcom came Scruznet, and ...
(Still giggling at how many times CRL got the intersection of Market/Geary/K=
earny dug up in the early 90s bringing fiber in...).
George William Herbert
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