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Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sat Jul 12 01:29:47 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <m2r41r2rkk.wl%randy@psg.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 22:31:39 -0700
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org


On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

>>> And, for the record, it's pretty widely acknowledge that "The World"=20=

>>> (Barry Shein) was the world's first commercial ISP - offering shell=20=

>>> access in 1989, and at some point started offering PPP dial-up=20
>>> services.  As I recall, they were a UUnet POP.
>> yep.  and uunet and psi were hallucinations.  can we please not =
rewrite
>> well-known history?
>> or are you equating shell access with isp?  that would be novel.  =
unix
>> shell !=3D internet.
>=20
> btw, not do denigrate what barry did.  a commercial unix bbs connected
> to the real internet was significant.  the left coasties were doing =
free
> stuff, the well, community memory, ...  and barry created a viable bbs
> commercial service which still survives (i presume).  a significant
> achievement.
>=20
> randy

Not to take away from Barry, but around that same time, some of us left =
coasts were also helping to build Netcom as a viable commercial entity =
providing shell and later PPP and dedicated line access (DS0, T1).

Owen


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