[172843] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Jul 11 12:50:05 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <53BF5E19.8000903@jima.us>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:50:22 -0700
To: Jima <nanog@jima.us>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Jima <nanog@jima.us> wrote:
> On 2014-07-10 19:40, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>> =46rom another list, I think this puts it nicely (for those of you =
who
>> don't know Brett, he's been running a small ISP for years
>> http://www.lariat.net/)
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> While trying to substantiate Mr. Glass' grievance with Netflix =
regarding their lack of availability to peer, I happened upon this =
tidbit from two months ago:
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> =
http://dewaynenet.wordpress.com/2014/04/29/re-netflix-inks-deal-with-veriz=
on-wont-talk-to-small-isps/
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> As for Mr. Woodcock's point regarding a lack of =
http://lariat.net/peering existing, =
https://www.netflix.com/openconnect/locations doesn't seem to do what =
I'd expect, either, although I did finally find the link to =
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=3D2906 . To Mr. Glass' point, I'm =
not seeing any way the listed PoPs could feasibly be less than 900 =
wire-miles from Laramie -- to be fair, cutting across "open land" is a =
bad joke at best.
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> Life is rough in these "fly-over" states (in which I would include my =
current state of residence); the closest IXes of which I'm aware are in =
Denver and SLC (with only ~19 and 9 peers, respectively). Either of =
those would be a hard sell for Netflix, no doubt about it.
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> I guess I'm just glad that my home ISP can justify anteing up for a =
pipe to SIX, resources for hosting OpenConnect nodes, and, for that =
matter, an ASN. Indeed, not everyone can.
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> Jima
I=92m always surprised that folks at smaller exchanges don=92t form =
consortiums to build a mutually beneficial transit AS that connects to a =
larger remote exchange.
For example, if your 19 peers in Denver formed a consortium to get a =
circuit into one (or more) of the larger exchanges in Dallas, Los =
Angeles, SF Bay Area, or Seattle with an ASN and a router at each end, =
the share cost of that link an infrastructure would actually be fairly =
low per peer.
Owen
