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Re: Listing or google map of peering exchange

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Wed Jul 9 15:46:57 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <63C6B422-48B8-4FC1-8A64-9A26F009B18C@pch.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:46:51 -0400
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On Jul 09, 2014, at 15:36 , Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Zaid A. Kahn <zaid@zaidali.com> wrote:
>=20
>> PeeringDB www.peeringdb.com is the defacto source of truth.
>=20
> That=92s user-submitted data.  The PCH directory is twenty years old, =
and is independently verified by our staff.  So what=92s there isn=92t =
always up-to-date, but we do differentiate between rumor and something =
that=92s been verified by someone going and laying eyes on it.

It is ever-so-slightly better than user-submitted data. Specifically, if =
an IX or a colo tells us "this person says they are a =
[Customer|Member|whatever] and they are not", we will remove that row =
from the DB.

Then again, PeeringDB never claimed to be anything but user-submitted =
data. Just the opposite.


> On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:34 AM, William F. Maton Sotomayor =
<wmaton@ottix.net> wrote:
>> https://prefix.pch.net/applications/ixpdir/
>=20
> Or, more specifically,=20
>=20
> =
https://prefix.pch.net/applications/ixpdir/index.php?new=3D1&show_active_o=
nly=3D1&sort=3DRegion&order=3Ddesc
>=20
> =85gets you exactly what you=92re looking for.

Taking just Seattle IX (since I have a personal interest there :), it =
says "177" under "participants", but =
<http://www.seattleix.net/participants.htm> disagrees.

To be clear, PCH does a better job than most (all?) others. And a =
ridiculously difficult job it is. Finding how each IXP presents its user =
/ traffic / whatever data an trying to collate it is nearly impossible.

But thank you for trying!

--=20
TTFN,
patrick


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