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Re: Feedback Requested: Routing Resilience Manifesto

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (goemon@anime.net)
Wed Jul 2 17:02:35 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 13:28:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: goemon@anime.net
To: Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon@cox.net>
In-Reply-To: <53B44BEE.8010009@cox.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 7/2/2014 1:00 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:52 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
>>> People will notice you streaking across a football field. They won't
>>> pay the slightest attention to what you have to say but they sure will
>>> notice you. Shall we organize a naked routing run?
>> No, but how else do you suggest we work to address these problems?
> I am no longer active in the field, but back in the day, the ways of 
> successfully selling stuff to management involved some mix of:
>
> It will improve sales.
> It will reduce costs.
> It will allow you to do something you want to do.
> It will keep you out of court and jail.
>
> No variation "It is the right thing to do" ever worked unless management 
> thought of it.

Things like DNSBLs could be used to encourage correct behavior.

Why is your network performance shit? Because you allow your customers to 
spew sewage and you ended up on a blacklist, everyone now puts all your 
traffic in scavenger queue.

-Dan

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