[172496] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Jun 19 18:49:46 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CFC86585.5F4E9%Lee@asgard.org>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:47:10 -0700
To: Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Jun 19, 2014, at 07:02 , Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org> wrote:
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>>> I support a recommendation to consumer retailers to start requiring =
IPv6
>>> support in the stuff that they sell, but unfortunately I don=B9t =
have very
>>> good data on how large of a request that actually is.
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>> In my experience, retailers will sell whatever flies off the shelves
>> without
>> regard to whether it=B9s good for the consumer or not. As such, I =
believe
>> it=B9s
>> more of a consumer education issue if we want to effect real change =
in
>> behavior
>> at this point.
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> What would you tell consumers?
I'm not entirely sure. I'm the first to admit that direct to consumer =
communications are not my specialty and that guidance/input from others =
that are more expert is welcome.
Often the first step is identifying the problem and coming to consensus =
that consumer education is a vital part of the solution. Things I'd like =
to see get communicated to consumers:
1. The current addressing scheme for the internet is out of =
numbers and change is necessary.
2. Change has been in the works for several years, but has =
now reached the point where you (consumers) can benefit
by paying attention and making intelligent and informed =
purchasing decisions.
3. There's plenty of vested interest out there that will =
happily take your money and leave you only on the old internet.
Therefore, it is important to pay attention when =
choosing network equipment and other network-attached electronics.
4. New general purpose computers (desktop/laptop/tablet) =
are generally all compatible with the new protocol.
5. Only some routers/gateways/modems currently have IPv6 =
support.
Ideally, it would be nice if the UNH/IOL and/or CEA could come up with a =
meaningful definition of IPv6 support and a logo to go with it that we =
could tell consumers to look for on the box. Ideally, this would be a =
set of standards that users of the logo agree to abide by rather than a =
fee-based testing regime that excludes smaller players.
Obviously this is in a very rough form, but Lee's question is a =
legitimate one and deserves an answer. Hopefully in our collective =
talent pool, we can find ways to improve upon what I will say is a =
beginning straw man at best.
Owen
