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Re: Credit to Digital Ocean for ipv6 offering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James R Cutler)
Wed Jun 18 19:52:57 2014

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From: James R Cutler <james.cutler@consultant.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:52:46 -0400
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On Jun 18, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Daniel Ankers <md1clv@md1clv.com> wrote:

> On 18 June 2014 19:05, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>=20
>> OTOH, it's far better than those ridiculous providers that are =
screwing
>> over their customers with /56s or even worse, /60s.
>>=20
>> Sad, really.
>>=20
>> Owen
>>=20
>>=20
> Is giving a /56 to residential customers REALLY "screwing them over"?
>=20
> It may be a failure of imagination on my part, but I'm struggling to =
come
> up with use cases for the home which would take up even 10% of the =
networks
> available in a /56.  And if the vast, vast majority of home users will
> never come close to needing the whole of a /56 then I don't see why =
every
> home should be given a /48.
>=20
> Dan

Responding to Dan,

The costs incurred in managing variable subnetting based on user type =
have been clearly demonstrated in almost two decades of IPv4 networking. =
 If I can assign a /48 to each and every customer (not considered a =
large enterprise) then my deployment costs plummet because I do NOT need =
to spend engineering time on address assignment.  I only need to get out =
my Network Engineer=92s binary knife to slice the address pie once. The =
same front office that takes the order can at the same time assign the =
IPv6 Prefix - sort of like Ma Bell does with phone numbers.

Since one of my goals as a network provider is to be competitive in =
price, minimizing extraneous labor costs helps me to still make a modest =
profit. =20


James R. Cutler
James.cutler@consultant.com
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