[172436] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Kaufman)
Wed Jun 18 17:51:55 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <E6F570A1-3911-437F-897F-81CB569377C1@delong.com>
From: Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:43:18 -0700
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
My Apple TV appears to use IPv6, but since there's no UI for it (last I chec=
ked) I had to disable SLAAC on that subnet to keep it from trying to use my s=
low connection.
So in my book, "some" v6 support is actually worse than "none"
Matthew Kaufman
(Sent from my iPhone)
On Jun 18, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> However, I also don't think consumer education is the answer:
>> http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/consumeraction.htm
>> Summary: Until it is perfectly clear why a consumer needs IPv6, and what
>> they need to do about it, consumer education will only cause fear and
>> frustration, which will not be helpful. This is a technology problem, not=
>> a feature problem, and consumers shouldn't have to select which Internet
>> to be on.
>>=20
>> Lee
>=20
> Short of consumer education, how do you expect to resolve the issue where $=
CONSUMER walks into $BIG_BOX_CE_STORE and says "I need a router, what's the c=
heapest one you have?"
>=20
> Whereupon $TEENAGER_MAKING_MINIMUM_WAGE who likely doesn't know DOCSIS 2 f=
rom DOCSIS 3, has no idea what IP actually is, and thinks that Data is an an=
droid from Star Trek says "Here, this Linksys thing is only $30."
>=20
> Unless/until we either get the stores to pull the IPv4-only stuff off thei=
r shelves or educate consumers, the continued deployment of additional incap=
able equipment will be a continuing problem. As bad as the situation is for c=
ablemodems and residential gateways, at least there, an educated consumer ca=
n make a good choice. Now, consider DVRs, BluRay players, Receiver/Amplifier=
s, Televisions, etc. where there are, currently, no IPv6 capable choices ava=
ilable to the best of my knowledge.
>=20
> Owen
>=20
