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Re: Large DDoS, small extortion

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Fri May 23 13:14:13 2014

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From: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 13:13:39 -0400
To: Blake Dunlap <ikiris@gmail.com>
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Sure, of course, many of us have. But how is $VICTIM supposed to
distinguish the wheat from the chaff without reference to specific
cases and results?

Some reasonable-sounding suggestions could be counter-productive or
even downright dangerous (depending on the nature of the attacker.) Or
a waste of time.

On May 22, 2014 at 23:22 ikiris@gmail.com (Blake Dunlap) wrote:
 > Most of us wish we didn't. There are so much more productive ways to=

 > spend the day than fighting a determined and adaptive attacker.
 >=20
 > -Blake
 >=20
 > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net=
> wrote:
 > >
 > > On May 23, 2014, at 3:38 AM, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote=
:
 > >
 > >> Some real life experience and results, case studies.
 > >
 > > Some of us have quite a bit of real-life experience and results in=
 these situations.
 > >
 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------=
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 > > Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.c=
om>
 > >
 > >                    Equo ne credite, Teucri.
 > >
 > >                           -- Laoco=C3=B6n
 > >

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        -Barry Shein

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