[171971] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Tinka)
Sun May 18 03:35:31 2014
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From: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 07:39:13 +0200
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On Friday, May 16, 2014 08:52:31 PM Christopher Morrow=20
wrote:
> is 'symmetric traffic ratios' even relevant though?
> Peering is about offsetting costs, right? it might not
> be important that the ratio be 1:1 or 2:1... or even
> 10:1, if it's going to cost you 20x to get the traffic
> over longer/transit/etc paths... or if you have to build
> into some horrific location(s) to access the content in
> question.
>=20
> Harping on symmetric ratios seems very 1990... and not
> particularly germaine to the conversation at hand.
Agree.
We don't have a ratio requirement, for example. We have a=20
"if it makes sense" requirement.
I'm forced to peer with certain African providers in London=20
and Amsterdam because they don't want to peer in Africa,=20
where we are literally are an x-connect away from each=20
other. And the reasons are not even because either of us is=20
larger or smaller than the other... it's just legacy=20
thinking and we're the new guy that has grown rapidly.
Now we both have to pay for traffic to get sent to Europe=20
and back. How nice...
Mark.
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