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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Helms)
Fri May 16 16:16:14 2014

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Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 16:16:06 -0400
From: Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com>
To: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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I think you will, all of those things have been around for a long time
(well, except for pervasive video calls, which I think is vapor) and none
generate the kind of traffic it takes to congest a decent link.  Most of
the DOCSIS systems I've worked with are running at least 6 mbps upstreams
and many are well into the double digits.  My current connection (tested
this morning) is about 22 mbps.


Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:

> Scott Helms wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> In my experience you're not alone, just in a really tiny group.  As I
>> said I have direct eyeballs on ~500k devices and the ability to see another
>> 10 million anytime I want and the percentage of people who cap their
>> upstream in both of those sample groups for more than 15 minutes (over the
>> last 3 years) is about 0.2%.  Interestingly if a customer does it once they
>> have about a 70% chance of doing it regularly.
>>
>
> Well, given Sling, Dropbox, iCloud, pervasive video calls (you have heard
> about webrtc, yes?
> 24/7 babycams!), youtube, etc, etc, I won't be a "tiny group" for long.
>
> Mike
>

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