[171944] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Helms)
Fri May 16 15:57:08 2014
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 15:50:24 -0400
From: Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com>
To: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Mike,
In my experience you're not alone, just in a really tiny group. As I said
I have direct eyeballs on ~500k devices and the ability to see another 10
million anytime I want and the percentage of people who cap their upstream
in both of those sample groups for more than 15 minutes (over the last 3
years) is about 0.2%. Interestingly if a customer does it once they have
about a 70% chance of doing it regularly.
Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:
> Scott Helms wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> No, its not too much to ask and any end user who has that kind of
>> requirement can order a business service to get symmetrical service but the
>> reality is that symmetrical service costs more and the vast majority of
>> customers don't use the upstream capacity they have today. I have personal
>> insight into about half a million devices and the percentage of people who
>> bump up against their upstream rate is less than 0.2%. I have the ability
>> to get data on another 10 million and the last time I checked their rates
>> were similar.
>>
>
> I've just been on the losing end of yet another piece of why crappy
> upstream
> bandwidth sucks: Mavericks seems to have decided that my other half's
> imovie
> library really, really ought to be uploaded to iCloud (without asking,
> ftw).
>
> I can and should be pissed at Apple for doing such a wrongheaded thing, but
> the fact is that my upstream bandwidth was saturated for hours and days
> and it
> was extremely difficult to figure out why. I doubt I'm alone.
>
> Better upstream bandwidth would have at least made the pain period shorter.
>
> Mike
>
