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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Thomas)
Fri May 16 15:49:54 2014

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Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 12:46:29 -0700
From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
To: Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com>
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Scott Helms wrote:
> Michael,
> 
> No, its not too much to ask and any end user who has that kind of 
> requirement can order a business service to get symmetrical service but 
> the reality is that symmetrical service costs more and the vast majority 
> of customers don't use the upstream capacity they have today.  I have 
> personal insight into about half a million devices and the percentage of 
> people who bump up against their upstream rate is less than 0.2%.  I 
> have the ability to get data on another 10 million and the last time I 
> checked their rates were similar.

I've just been on the losing end of yet another piece of why crappy upstream
bandwidth sucks: Mavericks seems to have decided that my other half's imovie
library really, really ought to be uploaded to iCloud (without asking, ftw).

I can and should be pissed at Apple for doing such a wrongheaded thing, but
the fact is that my upstream bandwidth was saturated for hours and days and it
was extremely difficult to figure out why. I doubt I'm alone.

Better upstream bandwidth would have at least made the pain period shorter.

Mike

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