[17194] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: different thinking on exchanging traffic
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Damian O'Gorman)
Wed May 27 11:09:24 1998
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:03:29 -0400
From: "Damian O'Gorman" <damian@cyberdude.com>
To: Michael Gibson <magibson@netcom.ca>
CC: "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
Who is currently exchanging traffic there ?
Damian
Michael Gibson wrote:
> CANIX is a co-operative peering point for National Canadian Traffic.
>
> Currently, they are seven national ISPs exchanging traffic at that point.
>
> Mike Gibson - Netcom Canada
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damian O'Gorman <damian@cyberdude.com>
> To: Sean Donelan <SEAN@SDG.DRA.COM>
> Cc: nanog@merit.edu <nanog@merit.edu>
> Date: 5/26/1998 17:31
> Subject: Re: different thinking on exchanging traffic
>
> >> Of course, not every local ISP participates. The state subsidized
> >> education network doesn't connect, nor do some the dialup ISPs. But
> >> it gets a reasonable level of support from several of the larger
> >> area providers.
> >>
> >
> >The same type of project was attemted in Toronto. CANIX was essentially set
> >upto cross connect traffic rather than having to traverse the entire US
> >network to get
> >to the other side of Toronto. The problem was, it became an exclusive
> >bilateral peering
> >arrangemt with 6 players. That was 1 1/2 years ago. Currently only 2 are
> >peered. What in fact was the point. UUnet and Sprint were the big players
> up
> >here and nobody appears to want to cooperate.
> >
> >> But exchange points are one of those weird creatures. If I'm paying
> >> a big expensive backbone, why would I get anything from a local exchange
> >> point? And of course, the ever popular "What's the catch?" Since
> >> local exchange points are generally run on a non-profit basis, that
> >> means there isn't a large marketing organization, or a huge gaggle of
> >> salespeople trying to sell it. If you like, we can call it a "managed
> >> connection" and charge you $1,000/month. But that seems steep for
> >> essentially a port on a catalyst switch.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Damian O'Gorman
> >
> >
