[171895] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman / RIP Network Neutrality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (arvindersingh@mail2tor.com)
Fri May 16 03:20:31 2014
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 20:17:40 +0100
From: arvindersingh@mail2tor.com
To: "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com>
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Owen this is interesting I think also...but how do u prove motive?
Arvinder
>> Yes, you've got "some of the largest Internet companies as customers².
>> Because you told them "if you don't pay us, we'll throttle you". Then
>> you throttled them. I'm sorry, not a winning argument.
>> Nick
>
> Claims by some large ISPs that this is “untrue” rest on the claim that
> they don’t do traffic discrimination.
>
> While they may not be (and, indeed, are not allowed to) do traffic
> discrimination, what is ignored is that refusing to add sufficient peering
> capacity is, to the consumer’s perspective (and to the content provider’s
> perspective as well) effectively the same thing as throttling.
>
> I will note that as yet, not one of these providers has claimed that they
> did not refuse to increase peering capacity in order to leverage payment,
> and, indeed, payment does appear to have been leveraged.
>
> Owen
>
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