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Re: New Zealand Spy Agency To Vet Network Builds, Provider Staff

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed May 14 11:15:30 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <4BE296DF-8D1E-4688-BCDC-9EC2000DA3B9@ianai.net>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 11:01:43 -0700
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

I didn=92t see the NSA telling us what we had to buy are demanding =
advance approval rights on our maintenance procedures.

Owen

On May 13, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> =
wrote:

> Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of this. But at least they did it in =
the open, unlike the NSA (where you live).
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> TTFN,
> patrick
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> On May 13, 2014, at 12:12 , Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
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>> Yep=85 If I had infrastructure in NZ, that would be enough to cause =
me to remove it.
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>> Owen
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>> On May 13, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com> =
wrote:
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>>> I realize that New Zealand is *not* in North America (hence NANOG),
>>> but I figure that some global providers might be interested here.
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>>> This sounds rather... dire (probably not the right word).
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>>> "The new Telecommunications (Interception Capability and Security) =
Act
>>> of 2013 is in effect in New Zealand and brings in several drastic
>>> changes for ISPs, telcos and service providers. One of the country's
>>> spy agencies, the GCSB, gets to decide on network equipment
>>> procurement and design decisions (PDF), plus operators have to
>>> register with the police and obtain security clearance for some =
staff.
>>> Somewhat illogically, the NZ government pushed through the law
>>> combining mandated communications interception capabilities for law
>>> enforcement, with undefined network security requirements as decided
>>> by the GCSB. All network operators are subject to the new law,
>>> including local providers as well as the likes of Facebook, Google,
>>> Microsoft, who have opposed it, saying the new statutes clash with
>>> overseas privacy legislation."
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>>> =
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/05/13/005259/new-zealand-spy-agency-to-ve=
t-network-builds-provider-staff
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>>> FYI,
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>>> - - ferg
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>>> Paul Ferguson
>>> VP Threat Intelligence, IID
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