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Re: New Zealand Spy Agency To Vet Network Builds, Provider Staff

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Zaid Ali Kahn)
Wed May 14 11:00:30 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Zaid Ali Kahn <zaid@zaidali.com>
In-Reply-To: <8BD160DC-0E18-4D1F-8244-17E79FE1E338@ianai.net>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 17:24:06 -0500
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On May 13, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> - Warning the world about Chinese surveillance could have been one of=20=

>   the motives behind the US government's claims that Chinese devices=20=

>   cannot be trusted. But an equally important motive seems to have =
been=20
>   preventing Chinese devices from supplanting American-made ones, =
which=20
>   would have limited the NSA's own reach. In other words, Chinese=20
>   routers and servers represent not only economic competition but also=20=

>   surveillance competition.


Case in point on Sprint/Softbank merger =
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/28/4155714/us-wants-sprint-softbank-deal-to=
-avoid-chinese-network-equipment/in/3252625

Should we as a community look at Open Hardware when we start to lose =
trust in vendors and governments? Can we make boards/ASIC/FPGA commodity =
enough to scale? =20

Zaid    =20

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