[171773] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: New Zealand Spy Agency To Vet Network Builds, Provider Staff
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Wed May 14 00:00:31 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <8A9C15BC-F40A-4AE6-9D83-FDBD817F7528@delong.com>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 17:25:06 -0400
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Exactly. They just broke in and left a trail of open doors behind.
Again, not saying either is good, just saying at least NZ is being =
"above board".
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TTFN,
patrick
On May 13, 2014, at 14:01 , Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> I didn=92t see the NSA telling us what we had to buy are demanding =
advance approval rights on our maintenance procedures.
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> Owen
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> On May 13, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> =
wrote:
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>> Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of this. But at least they did it =
in the open, unlike the NSA (where you live).
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>> TTFN,
>> patrick
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>> On May 13, 2014, at 12:12 , Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
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>>> Yep=85 If I had infrastructure in NZ, that would be enough to cause =
me to remove it.
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>>> Owen
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>>> On May 13, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Paul Ferguson =
<fergdawgster@mykolab.com> wrote:
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>>>> I realize that New Zealand is *not* in North America (hence NANOG),
>>>> but I figure that some global providers might be interested here.
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>>>> This sounds rather... dire (probably not the right word).
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>>>> "The new Telecommunications (Interception Capability and Security) =
Act
>>>> of 2013 is in effect in New Zealand and brings in several drastic
>>>> changes for ISPs, telcos and service providers. One of the =
country's
>>>> spy agencies, the GCSB, gets to decide on network equipment
>>>> procurement and design decisions (PDF), plus operators have to
>>>> register with the police and obtain security clearance for some =
staff.
>>>> Somewhat illogically, the NZ government pushed through the law
>>>> combining mandated communications interception capabilities for law
>>>> enforcement, with undefined network security requirements as =
decided
>>>> by the GCSB. All network operators are subject to the new law,
>>>> including local providers as well as the likes of Facebook, Google,
>>>> Microsoft, who have opposed it, saying the new statutes clash with
>>>> overseas privacy legislation."
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http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/05/13/005259/new-zealand-spy-agency-to-ve=
t-network-builds-provider-staff
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>>>> FYI,
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>>>> - - ferg
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>>>> Paul Ferguson
>>>> VP Threat Intelligence, IID
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